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*doesn't make it to the Soup Kitchen until after the noon rush*

*finds the place mostly empty, except for Phil, who's passed out on a table and looking a little sickly*

*plops in a chair and puts her head in her hands*

*could really use someone to talk to*

*hopes maybe Hank the Wino will come around later. he's a really good listener when he's not snoring*

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From: [info]ingoldo Date: 02/19/2007 16:33:19  

*cleans up a few tables that don't really need cleaning*

*but hey, it helps with the ambiance sort of*

*glances at you curiously* Rough day?
From: [info]luthiekins Date: 02/19/2007 16:35:58  

*looks up at you* *shrugs reluctantly*

Sort of. Rough week. *nods in the other direction* Not as rough as Phil's, I guess.
From: [info]ingoldo Date: 02/19/2007 16:39:37  

*nods understandingly* I know the feeling.

*throws a blanket over Phil* Nah, he'll be all right. Today was minestrone and he just got a little overzealous.
From: [info]luthiekins Date: 02/19/2007 16:44:11  

*smiles a little* Maybe Phil will learn something about temperance, then. Though that seems unlikely.

*stands up* Can I help you clean up? I would have been here earlier but... well... there was this fight. Another one. So I was sort of distracted.
From: [info]ingoldo Date: 02/19/2007 16:50:01  

*laughs softly* I suppose anything's possible.

I'm about done here... *scans the room* *points* I think somebody had a bit of a spill at the table in the corner, though. Thanks.

*makes a dismissive gesture* Are you kidding? Everybody here is just glad to have help when we can get it, you know?

there was this fight

Nothing too serious, I hope.
From: [info]luthiekins Date: 02/19/2007 16:55:43  

*goes to clean up the spill*

Nothing too serious

Nooo, not really, I guess. It's not really a big deal. Just a former friend. On top of everything else, though, it didn't help.

*looks at you* I'm sorry, I'm being rude. I'm Lúthien. I've seen you here before but I've never introduced myself.
From: [info]ingoldo Date: 02/19/2007 17:04:55  

everything else

That sounds heavy. *shrugs a bit shyly* Feel free to vent if you like. I'm pretty used to it.

Forgive me--I'm Aro. I run the mission down on Mulberry? It's a pleasure, Lúthien. I don't think I knew you in my past life. I lived in Aman.
From: [info]luthiekins Date: 02/19/2007 17:10:18  

*smiles* No, we must not have met before. I never went outside Doriath in my last life. Except. *frowns* I guess I sort of did -- I just don't remember.

*sighs heavily* And that's the problem, isn't it?

Feel free to vent if you like.

You see, my father is this sort of... *tries to think of a nice way to put it* ...insanely controlling person. It never really bothered me too much before. But I found out a few days ago that he was keeping something from me. Something really really big, about my past life, that he didn't want me to know "to protect me". But that doesn't seem fair, does it? Maybe I should get to decide what I should be protected from. Maybe? I just don't know.
From: [info]ingoldo Date: 02/19/2007 17:25:02  

I know you by reputation, anyway. I think most do. *encouragingly* I'm sure it'll come back to you sooner or later. In my experience, these things usually do. *goes to the sink to wash his hands*

*makes a few connections in his head based on recent encounters and the histories he's read* I met your father, actually. Elwë, yes? If he treats you anything like he treated me, I think I'll have to take your side of the argument by default. :s

*straddles one of the benches, facing you* On the one hand, I can imagine why a father would want to protect his daughter. But I think you're right--it's not necessary to keep secrets about those perceived dangers. In fact, it's when communication breaks down that things get really sticky.
From: [info]luthiekins Date: 02/19/2007 17:33:49  

Elwë, yes?

Yeah, that's Daddy my father. *frowns* I know he wants to keep me safe and I understand that but... the "perceived danger" is my former husband. Who I don't even remember. He kept him a secret from me -- he even had all the history books changed! -- just because he didn't like him. Also I think he was trying to hide a bunch of really bad things he did in his last life.

*wrings her hands* But now I feel really bad because when I found out I said awful things to him. I should probably just go and apologize but I honestly don't think I can do that right now. Does that make me a bad person?
From: [info]ingoldo Date: 02/19/2007 23:36:27  

*grins* Sometimes the would-be husbands are the worst of all. *gets a strange look in his eye* My little girl always was a tomboy and I still... *trails off and blinks in confusion* Sorry, I just...zoned out there for a second.

just because he didn't like him...trying to hide a bunch of really bad things he did

That sounds extreme, no question. I'd guess there are some more fundamental emotional issues at play that he needs to work out first. Does he have any confidants? Trusted advisors? Maybe they could get him to talk to someone.

Does that make me a bad person?

Not a chance, Lúthien. We all say things in the heat of the moment that we regret later if only because I had a bad case of l'esprit de l'escalier. Just give yourself a little time. *smiles warmly* Obviously I've only heard one side of the story, but it doesn't sound to me like you have much to apologize for.
From: [info]luthiekins Date: 02/20/2007 07:09:18  

Does he have any confidants?

*resists the urge to burst out laughing* Well. Sometimes when they're not fighting he listens to my mother. But. They're pretty much always fighting especially about me. Hmm. I honestly don't think he takes advice from anyone. He's sort of power-hungry. I doubt he'd even listen to me if I talked to him which I'm not going to ever!!.

*smiles a little* I guess you're right. I was upset and I said things I didn't mean. And he said things that he hopefully didn't mean. Maybe... eventually I can talk to him about it. If he'll listen. He's not a very good listener.
From: [info]ingoldo Date: 02/20/2007 07:29:36  

They're pretty much always fighting

I honestly don't think he takes advice from anyone

I doubt he'd even listen to me

He's not a very good listener


*can't help laughing himself* Varda's Stars, Lúthien! I'd have packed up my mother and run away from home by now. *quickly* Not that I'm recommending running away or anything.
From: [info]luthiekins Date: 02/20/2007 07:34:59  

I wouldn't do that! I mean. He's my dad. *fakely lightheartedly* I can't imagine what a terror he'd be if we weren't around. It's for the good of everyone if we stay.

Besides, he's a little insane controlling Machiavellian intense, but I love him. *frowns*
From: [info]ingoldo Date: 02/20/2007 07:44:21  

*nods* The good of the entire world, it sounds like. And it seems clear he loves you too, even he's going about the whole thing completely, entirely wrong. *feels something like indignation on behalf of all the good fathers out there...whose ranks he is not a member of, obviously. seriously.*

*a little sadly* Now that I think about it...my brother and I would have given anything for even a little misguided attention from our father.
From: [info]luthiekins Date: 02/20/2007 07:53:33  

it seems clear he loves you

Yeah, I suppose he really does.

my brother and I would have given anything for even a little misguided attention from our father.

*frowns* *feels sort of... selfish? ungrateful?* Your father didn't give you any attention? That's horrible. I honestly can't imagine what that would be like. I've always been the center of my father's world.
From: [info]ingoldo Date: 02/20/2007 08:01:47  

*rueful smile* Oh, my father had one of those, too. It was my half-brother, Curvo. Fëanor? *sees his brother's face in his mind*

Sorry...I'm just now recalling these things. It's an interesting sensation. Meaning "I'm pretty sure there's a reason I forgot it all."
From: [info]luthiekins Date: 02/20/2007 08:07:11  

Fëanor

My father told me about him. The edited, bloodless version. *smiles a little* I don't think he liked your brother very much.

*curiously* You still don't remember much? Just your... daughter? And brother? I thought I remembered most everything but apparently there are still a few gaps. It would probably be a lot easier if we remembered everything right off.
From: [info]ingoldo Date: 02/20/2007 08:16:44  

*shrugs* I don't think he liked most people very much.

Little things, here and there. Random things. I need to just sit down and get some reading done so I can at least learn it all intellectually. I heard the book laws have been repealed. Maybe reading will help you remember?

if we remembered everything right off

Some people do. At first I thought it was related to time done in Mandos for our sins. That would have been a little more encouraging actually. Meaningful, at least. :s
From: [info]luthiekins Date: 02/20/2007 08:21:18  

the book laws

The book laws? I never heard of them. But. Ah. I think I get it. I did some reading on vacation. That's sort of how this all started. But I haven't remembered anything yet. I'm sure it'll come back eventually! [/hopeless optimism]

Meaningful, at least.

*laughs a little* I'm starting to doubt there's much meaning in these things. Maybe we don't remember because of some trauma? I don't know. My foster-brother didn't remember anything and, when he did.... well, it wasn't pretty. *casually* He had a rough first life.
From: [info]ingoldo Date: 02/20/2007 08:34:08  

*is glad to see you looking a little more hopeful* </High King of hopeless optimism>

*ponders all this* I suppose the Valar might know what it's all about. *laughs* Some of them just walk around town like regular old unholy people, you know. I saw Oromë during the blackout but I didn't dare approach him. He had a gun.
From: [info]luthiekins Date: 02/20/2007 08:40:21  

*nods* Yeah, Yavanna stops by our house at least once every other month to yell at my dad about the pollution levels. It doesn't do any good, though. And Vána caused the Big Blackout, of course. I don't remember them being around so much in my last life. *quickly* Of course, I didn't live in the Blessed Realm like you! My mom did have some strange visitors ever once in a while, though, but I don't think they were ever Valar. Probably not. I doubt it.
From: [info]ingoldo Date: 02/20/2007 08:46:35  

*is a bit star-struck* I'm not sure I was ever on a first-name basis with the emissaries of Eru.

Yavanna stops by...to yell

Vána caused the Big Blackout


*looks disappointed* Yavanna yells? Really?
From: [info]luthiekins Date: 02/20/2007 08:51:01  

*laughs softly* Well, I call one of them "Mom", so it's hard to use titles with the rest, I guess. *shrugs* It always seemed normal.

*grins* Yavanna carries an AK-47 big gun over her shoulder at all times. I think the yelling should be the least of your worries.
From: [info]ingoldo Date: 02/20/2007 08:58:16  

I suppose you're right. *smiles faintly* It all sounds a bit sacrilegious in those terms, that's all. That's all??

*pales slightly* "Only eat things that have fallen off the tree." Got it.
From: [info]luthiekins Date: 02/20/2007 09:01:43  

They don't mind, honestly. I think. I don't really know. I think they prefer it, actually. They wouldn't be here if they didn't want to know us, right?

*laughs* That's a motto to live by, that is. Her fights with Oromë are legendary.
From: [info]ingoldo Date: 02/20/2007 09:12:07  

*still has Eru though, right? RIGHT??*

You have a point there. *grins* Brilliant and beautiful, my god. *...* mygod. 0_o
From: [info]luthiekins Date: 02/20/2007 09:16:36  

*looks at her watch*

*a bit sadly* I should go. They send out the guards if I'm missing for more than an hour. *is maybe joking. isn't sure* I'll try to actually make it for lunch tomorrow. *smiles*

Thank you for listening. *reaches over and squeezes your hand* You're very good at your job, you know.
From: [info]ingoldo Date: 02/20/2007 09:24:54  

*lightly* Maybe I'll see you tomorrow then. And if you can't make it, I'll just have to work doubly hard and probably faint from exhaustion and have to be rushed to the hospital. No biggie.

*flustrated* *comfortably* You're welcome, Lúthien. That's what I'm here for, day or night...um. And thank you for kindly leaving me now.
From: [info]luthiekins Date: 02/20/2007 09:28:15  

I'll be here, I promise. *grins* Thanks again. *impulsively hugs you!* See you tomorrow. *pauses to check on Phil on her way to the door* *skips out!*
From: [info]ingoldo Date: 02/20/2007 09:31:15  

*waves to you as you leave*

*hears the Penance Counter in his head spinning out of control*
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